Questioner – When we say ‘Stay as the Seer’, and the Seer is not an object or it is not an entity, sometimes I get confused by that, how can I stay as the Seer?
Rajee – Oh yes, yes, it’s a good question. You are asking that, how to stay as the Seer if the Seer is not an object? Then when it is suggested that stay as the Seer, it means it is suggested that stay as your Self, that’s the meaning of it actually. This is the meaning of it, stay as your Self. But now, how you will stay as yourself, if you don’t know who you are? And how you will know your Self? There are 2 ways. One is Self-Inquiry, inquiring into ‘I’, meaning inquiring into who I am, at any point of time. Not like a spiritual I or non spiritual I, but just the plain simple ‘I’ that you are. So this is one way. Another way, that you are talking right now, is Seeing. The Seeing is necessary because we believe that we are the objects or we are with the objects. We believe or we experience association with what we see, that’s why we almost stay as objects actually. So your question is very genuine and valid, I would say. So what you do is, don’t try to stay as the Seer directly, follow the first step of the Simple Seeing, first SEE for a few minutes, two, three, four minutes, five minutes, just simply See. This Simple Seeing will kind of detach you from the objects – meaning your association with what you see will break, and just for few minutes now, you can actually stay as yourself, not like Seer of objects but more a remembrance that I am the Seer. What you are seeing is not important but more like your remembrance – kind of a feeling that seeing is important. Do you follow what I am saying?
So it is very necessary for you to stay as the Seer, that you follow first step, without fail you should practice first step always. You can try to stay as the Seer but you will stay as the Seer which is mixed with objects also. And in the objects two main things are there: body – body means the experiencing faculty in the physical realm, and the mind – which imagines, thinks.
One interesting thing I want to share with you here is – everything that you are experiencing in life, it is not something to be taken literally, but something which will help you really, all of you I feel, that every object that you experience outside of yourself has a corresponding object inside the mind also, otherwise you cannot experience it. So this journey of ego to the Seer is moving from the mind object to the reality of life. In one way you can say rather than experiencing life through mind objects, experiencing it directly through the body, senses, and consciousness. And this is the way: stay as the Seer. If you stay as the Seer, your energies detach from the mind objects, which are as valuable for you as the real one right now because you don’t attach, connect to the real ones directly right now. And because of that, energy is given to the mind objects and they live in you almost like forever. And when you withdraw your energy, do not give value to them, they die by themselves, because they are not objects really, they are thoughts you give value to. They just settle down by themselves. Now you can have a cup of tea in a restaurant without thinking about anything, including the cup of tea. Not thinking like how divine this cup of tea is, not like this, No, there is no need for that. Why? You can be just as simple as you are. Let it be the most simple tea, cup of tea, not a spiritual cup of tea and you will know what life is. You will know what a real cup of tea is and from those mind objects which live with you as reality – inside you, inside the Seer, you have to be free from them also. This is we are missing (smiles).
Like (right now) – ‘Kiran, Oh I know you Kiran’. This is a mind object that lives inside me and if it is given more value, I will never meet real Kiran. That’s what I’m saying, and this is what is the meaning of letting go of your past and giving value to the moment, to the present. Because Kiran is present, but the mind object that I have is like a self sustained, self correcting and improving object inside the mind, which has the whole history of Kiran and my relation with him, interactions with him, and everything, like somehow putting it aside and having a real meeting. That’s what I’ve been calling, telling all of you, that let’s have a real meeting. You are not meeting me, you are meeting an object in your mind called Rajee, even when you come in this meeting, in this room. If you meet me you will wake up right now, because I’m not touching any past or anything, I’m not giving value to what I know about you, I’m meeting you right now, as you are, a reality of this moment.