Reality and the corresponding mind objects

Questioner – When we say ‘Stay as the Seer’, and the Seer is not an object or it is not an entity, sometimes I get confused by that, how can I stay as the Seer?

Rajee – Oh yes, yes, it’s a good question. You are asking that, how to stay as the Seer if the Seer is not an object? Then when it is suggested that stay as the Seer, it means it is suggested that stay as your Self, that’s the meaning of it actually. This is the meaning of it, stay as your Self. But now, how you will stay as yourself, if you don’t know who you are? And how you will know your Self? There are 2 ways. One is Self-Inquiry, inquiring into ‘I’, meaning inquiring into who I am, at any point of time. Not like a spiritual I or non spiritual I, but just the plain simple ‘I’ that you are. So this is one way. Another way, that you are talking right now, is Seeing. The Seeing is necessary because we believe that we are the objects or we are with the objects. We believe or we experience association with what we see, that’s why we almost stay as objects actually. So your question is very genuine and valid, I would say. So what you do is, don’t try to stay as the Seer directly, follow the first step of the Simple Seeing, first SEE for a few minutes, two, three, four minutes, five minutes, just simply See. This Simple Seeing will kind of detach you from the objects – meaning your association with what you see will break, and just for few minutes now, you can actually stay as yourself, not like Seer of objects but more a remembrance that I am the Seer. What you are seeing is not important but more like your remembrance – kind of a feeling that seeing is important. Do you follow what I am saying?

So it is very necessary for you to stay as the Seer, that you follow first step, without fail you should practice first step always. You can try to stay as the Seer but you will stay as the Seer which is mixed with objects also. And in the objects two main things are there: body – body means the experiencing faculty in the physical realm, and the mind – which imagines, thinks.

One interesting thing I want to share with you here is – everything that you are experiencing in life, it is not something to be taken literally, but something which will help you really, all of you I feel, that every object that you experience outside of yourself has a corresponding object inside the mind also, otherwise you cannot experience it. So this journey of ego to the Seer is moving from the mind object to the reality of life. In one way you can say rather than experiencing life through mind objects, experiencing it directly through the body, senses, and consciousness. And this is the way: stay as the Seer. If you stay as the Seer, your energies detach from the mind objects, which are as valuable for you as the real one right now because you don’t attach, connect to the real ones directly right now. And because of that, energy is given to the mind objects and they live in you almost like forever. And when you withdraw your energy, do not give value to them, they die by themselves, because they are not objects really, they are thoughts you give value to. They just settle down by themselves. Now you can have a cup of tea in a restaurant without thinking about anything, including the cup of tea. Not thinking like how divine this cup of tea is, not like this, No, there is no need for that. Why? You can be just as simple as you are. Let it be the most simple tea, cup of tea, not a spiritual cup of tea and you will know what life is. You will know what a real cup of tea is and from those mind objects which live with you as reality – inside you, inside the Seer, you have to be free from them also. This is we are missing (smiles).

Like (right now) – ‘Kiran, Oh I know you Kiran’. This is a mind object that lives inside me and if it is given more value, I will never meet real Kiran. That’s what I’m saying, and this is what is the meaning of letting go of your past and giving value to the moment, to the present. Because Kiran is present, but the mind object that I have is like a self sustained, self correcting and improving object inside the mind, which has the whole history of Kiran and my relation with him, interactions with him, and everything, like somehow putting it aside and having a real meeting. That’s what I’ve been calling, telling all of you, that let’s have a real meeting. You are not meeting me, you are meeting an object in your mind called Rajee, even when you come in this meeting, in this room. If you meet me you will wake up right now, because I’m not touching any past or anything, I’m not giving value to what I know about you, I’m meeting you right now, as you are, a reality of this moment.

[ Excerpts from Online Meeting 24th February, 2018 ]
[ 14.36 to 21.18  https://youtu.be/R7hY7r8GwnY ]
[ Guided Meditation by Rajee “Simple Seeing: 3 Step” https://youtu.be/gNcip_TAyXE ]

What is Transcendence really?

Transcendence is one of the most fundamental approaches, which is very useful in spiritual progress. And it is actually vital element in the process of awakening. Simply put, it is transcending duality. Not the duality that we learn theoretically in spiritual journey, but the duality that we experience ourself in life. Hunger and fulfillment of hunger is one of the simplest examples of duality that we experience in our life. Other dualistic experiences that we have are stress (at body and mind level) and release from it, worrying about something and being free from it, feeling happy and sad etc.

Why you need to transcend duality?
We don’t need to really. Duality itself is never a problem and doesn’t produce any pleasant or unpleasant experiences by itself; in duality everything follows its own nature. Our experience of duality is based on our state and the knowledge we have of nature of things, of life flow. But we would agree that we do have unwanted experiences and try to get rid of them. Basically an unwanted experience is the struggle to be free from a certain level of experiencing and not finding a way out. Although mostly we are not aware of the nature of things here and so we try to remove one part of the dualistic experience while trying to keep the other. And this struggle doesn’t take us anywhere except in more and more tiredness. Here approach of transcendence becomes very useful.

So is transcendence escaping the experience or confronting it?
It is none of them. Both escaping and confronting the experience require us to be engaged with the experience directly, with the hope to remove it. In escaping an experience, we try to become numb about it or try to cover it with some ‘pain killer experience’; basically try to divert our attention from it. Confronting the unwanted experience is commonly seen as living the experience as it is. Although confronting an unwanted experience may wake you up altogether to a different level of your existence, yet it mostly doesn’t because the focus is on removing the experience not transcending it. So this approach also keeps us engaged with and limited to the unwanted experience.

Transcendence is as natural as breathing when we know the right thing
Let me explain with an example. Suppose you are a balloon full of hot air, tied to a thread and stuck in bushes on the earth. You have capacity of rising in the sky and experiencing it’s vastness, you have desire to be free from earth and rise in the sky also. So what need to be done in order for you to rise to the sky? Do you need to push yourself towards the sky or you just need to be free from the bushes on the earth?

Transcending doesn’t really require any push towards the higher level; it only needs freedom from the dualistic level of experience we are in. So if we just don’t hold on to anything at the level of dualistic experience where we are troubled, we simply start rising from this level to a higher level of consciousness. If we can refrain ourself from taking side of any part of the dualistic experience, we get pulled into a deeper level of life than the present level. And this deeper level is the answer to your desire to be free from ‘unwanted experience’. This deeper level has more space, relax, energy and neutrality, you can see much more clearly from there into the two parts of the dualistic experience and can understand better what’s the nature of things.

Those who want to wakeup to your True Nature must understand that you cannot reach to your True Nature by doing a journey into itself, although the first recognition of our True Nature is felt like a journey mostly. The level of duality you are trying to transcend is like an extension out of yourself. If you wish to reach to yourself then don’t try to reach to yourself because every such effort will be another extension of the present level, which is an extension itself. Through effort the best you can do is create an upside-down ‘U’ which is like your attention stretched like rubber from your present level to your deeper level and obviously you will feel stress. That’s why no one can stay in the self by effort. The only way to stay in True Nature is, that don’t stay in the extension of yourself for few minutes and you are naturally pulled into yourself. The example of a fist is very appropriate here. To make a fist you need to put effort. But do you need any effort to bring your hand into its natural state? No, you just need to stop applying force and you have stopped making the fist. The hand will come into its natural state by itself. But remember to have patience and don’t start putting efforts to bring your hand into its natural state.

How not to hold onto anything at the dualistic level?
Explore deeply how you are holding onto anything. As you look into your hold deeply, a release from it happens naturally by itself. It happens because essentially every bond of two things in life is like absence of light; like a gap between the two, full of darkness. Remember darkness is not presence of darkness but absence of light. As you bring light of your neutral seeing into this gap, an effortless detachment happens.